I have been trying this stuff and it seems to work. I have been taking six pills a day plus one scoop of powdered Osteo Biflex mixed in a glass of fresh carrot juice. I heard that if you drink a quart of carrot juice a day it will cure arthritis. The ORMUS rhodium in carrot juice is said to cure cancer. The joint complex is a Shackley product. Sorry I can't make the image bigger. The gist of the article below is he started taking 6 pills a day and his pain went away.