SHOULD BE READ BY EVERY KID IN GRADE AND HIGH SCHOOL

On Tuesday, in Fort Walton Beach , Florida , the surviving Doolittle Raiders gathered publicly for the last time.

They once were among the most universally admired and revered men in the United States . There were 80 of the Raiders in April 1942, when they carried out one of the most courageous and heart-stirring military operations in this nation' s history. The mere mention of their unit ' s name, in those years, would bring
tears to the eyes of grateful Americans.
 
Now only four survive.

After Japan ' s sneak attack on Pearl Harbor , with the United States reeling and wounded, something dramatic was needed to turn the war effort around.

Even though there were no friendly airfields close enough to Japan for the United States to launch a retaliation, a daring plan was devised. Sixteen B-25s were modified so that they could take off from the deck of an aircraft carrier. This had never before been tried -- sending such big, heavy bombers from a carrier.

The 16 five-man crews, under the command of Lt. Col. James Doolittle, who himself flew the lead plane off the USS Hornet, knew that they would not be able to return to the carrier. They would have to hit Japan and then hope to make it to China for a safe landing.

But on the day of the raid, the Japanese military caught wind of the plan The Raiders were told that they would have to take off from much farther out in the Pacific Ocean than they had counted on. They were told that because of this they would not have enough fuel to make it to safety.

And those men went anyway.

They bombed Tokyo , and then flew as far as they could. Four planes crash-landed; 11 more crews bailed out, and three of the Raiders died. Eight more were captured; three were executed. Another died of starvation in a Japanese prison camp. One crew made it to Russia .

The Doolittle Raid sent a message from the United States to its enemies, and to the rest of the world: We will fight. And, no matter what it takes, we will win.

Of the 80 Raiders, 62 survived the war. They were celebrated as national heroes, models of bravery. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer produced a motion picture based on the raid; "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo," starring Spencer Tracy and Van Johnson, was a patriotic and emotional box-office hit, and the phrase became part of the
national lexicon. In the movie-theater previews for the film, MGM proclaimed that it was presenting the story "with supreme pride"

Beginning in 1946, the surviving Raiders have held a reunion each April, to commemorate the mission. The reunion is in a different city each year. In 1959, the city of Tucson , Arizona , as a gesture of respect and gratitude, presented the Doolittle Raiders with a set of 80 silver goblets. Each goblet was engraved with the name of a Raider.

Every year, a wooden display case bearing all 80 goblets is transported to the reunion city. Each time a Raider passes away, his  goblet is turned upside down in the case at the next reunion, as his old friends bear solemn witness.

Also in the wooden case is a bottle of 1896 Hennessy Very Special cognac. The year is not happenstance: 1896 was when Jimmy Doolittle was born.

There has always been a plan: When there are only two surviving Raiders, they would open the bottle, at last drink from it, and toast their comrades who preceded them in death.

As 2013 began, there were five living Raiders; then, in February, Tom Griffin passed away at age 96. What a man he was. After bailing out of his plane over a mountainous Chinese forest after the Tokyo raid, he became ill with malaria, and almost died. When he recovered, he was sent to Europe to fly more combat missions. He was shot down, captured, and spent 22 months in a German prisoner of war camp.

The selflessness of these men, the sheer guts ... there was a passage in the Cincinnati Enquirer obituary for Mr. Griffin that, on the surface, had nothing to do with the war, but that emblematizes the depth of his sense of duty and devotion: "When his wife became ill and needed to go into a nursing home, he visited her every day. He walked from his house to the nursing home, fed his wife and at the end of the day brought home her clothes. At night, he washed and ironed her clothes. Then he walked them up to her room the next morning. He did that for three years until her death in 2005."

So now, out of the original 80, only four Raiders remain:Dick Cole (Doolittle ' s co-pilot on the Tokyo raid), Robert Hite, Edward Saylor and David Thatcher. All are in their 90s. They have decided that there are too few of them for the public reunions to continue.

The events in Fort Walton Beach this week will mark the end. It has come full circle; Florida ' s nearby Eglin Field was where the Raiders trained in secrecy for the Tokyo mission. The town is planning to do all it can to honor the men: a six-day celebration of their valor, including luncheons, a dinner and a parade.

Do the men ever wonder if those of us for whom they helped save the country have tended to it in a way that is worthy of their sacrifice? They don ' t talk about that, at least not around other people. But if you find yourself near Fort Walton Beach this week, and if you should encounter any of the Raiders, you might want to offer them a word of thanks. I can tell you from first hand observation that they appreciate hearing that they are remembered. 

The men have decided that after this final public reunion they will wait until a later date -- some time this year -- to get together once more, informally and in absolute privacy. That is when they will open the bottle of brandy. The years are flowing by too swiftly now; they are not going to wait until there are only two of them.

They will fill the four remaining upturned goblets.
And raise them in a toast to those who are gone.

PLEASE SEND THIS ON TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK, ESPECIALLY TO THOSE WHO
WERE TOO YOUNG TO KNOW ABOUT THESE GUYS. THIS SHOULD BE READ BY EVERY KID IN GRADE AND HIGH SCHOOL SO THEY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

How UFOs FLY...

I got news for you. The US had been training pilots to fly flying saucers since the 1950's. They got some of the technology from the Germans who were flying them before WWII. The technology is quite simple: I will try to attach a picture on one.

Above is a picture of the entomologist, Kozrev and his machine.

Oh Ya. Tesla was flying one around in Colorado back in the 1800's. A farmer came out to see why his horses were acting up and saw him flying along on top of a square platform with controls mounted on the handle bars. He was wearing a black tuxedo at the time with a black stove pipe hat. The device he was flying had sparks flowing off the copper bottom. It was probably a big capacitor. When he got near the barbed wire fence it flipped over and he took an nasty spill. He used to fly it out of his hotel window at night over the New York City.

The Earth is a negative ground. That means it has a surplus --(a whole bunch of electrons). If you charge something up with an equal number or more electrons it till repel gravity. The bottom of our flying saucers is a giant capacitor made of copper plates shaped like a piece of pie only they are composed of millions of 14-micron-diameter copper beads. We learn in grade school that electrons flow on the surface of copper wires. That is why they use stranded wire on appliances -- so they can carry more juice. (electrons).

The pie shaped copper plates in the Alien Reproduction Vechile (attached drawing) are stacked up nine deep and separated with plastic resin. The surface area of one plate if you figure all the millions of beads is enough to coven an entire football field and there are over 100 of these plates in a 30-foot diameter flying saucer. You simply charge them up and the thing repels gravity. A small reactor or fuel cell is used to charge the plates. It requires very little electricity. There are no devils or daemons involved...

When you fly near automobiles or other aircraft the electric and magnetic charges are so great it creates havoc with their electrical systems causing the to Short out with induction or induced current. In layman's terms: there are so many electrons in your saucer that they leak over to other craft and short them out. Note the serial numbers and + mounting instructions on the Alien hardware below. 

I believe the story about our 12 astronauts traveling to planet SERPO is real. {Type SERPO into Google to read more about this.} I believe Ike Eisenhower really did make a deal with the Aliens. Where do you think the transistor, integrated circuits, fiber optic cabel and touch screens came from? 

The planet SERPO, 35 light years from Earth, is hot, dry and small. I has only one ocean and a population of only 500,000 people. I can understand why the Aliens would not take our people to one of their more densly populated planets due to our war like nature. We might develop the technology to go there and start droping atomic bombs. Instead, they took our people to one of their lesser populated planets out in the boondocks. 

At left is a star map of nearby star systems. Note you can't travel in strait lines due to the affects of gravity from other stars. The fastest way to travel from point to point is always a curved in space.






UFO's have been around since before the beginning of time and even mentioned in the Bible. 

The large flying triangles are made of something like aluminum fine mesh chicken wire with little needles pointing downward. They are charged with electricity and the electrons escaping from the points of the needles pump the air down causing them to float. Its not majic. It ionizes the air monicules. Its called ionic propulsion. You can shoot through them and it does little or no damage. They can be flown remotely and are used for aerial surveillance and to scare the crap out of the enemy over battlefields. 

They are also used to brainwash the public into thinkiing that Aliens are watching us and that they might pose a threat to us so that we would be more willing to pay our income taxto the Federal Reserve bankers who live in Europe so they will loan more money to the military industrial complex... 

PS. The Chinese and Rama Empire were building UFO's thousands of years ago...

Note the German tank cannon mounted on the 1940's craft at left. 

Below is a styalized drawing of the guts out of an ancient flying saucer. The pipes are filled with mercury which when spun climbs up the tubes to the top and falls back down the central pipe. Send me some money and I will build one. I already constructed the form to bend the pipes on my lathe. I registered the device with the patent office. It looks different than the ancient drawing below because the people who drew this thought the pipes looked like snakes. They were primative people who drew things to match things they were familiar with. It also flew so they drew wings on it. You don't need the wings. They are only trying to tell you it flew. When you run a liquid conductor like mercury through pipes it creates the opposite of magnetism ie. gravity or anti-gravity...time fields.

The stylized ANTI-GRAVITY engine below is a continuous impulse engine capable of delivering 3.8 newton’s per watt thrust or 112 pounds per horse power lift. Impulse engines are 6 time more efficient than a rockets however due the circulating mercury it could be over unity. I don't know for sure and I would like to find out but I am short of funds to experiment. Mercury weighs 112 pounds per gallon and a gallon cost more than $2,000 with freight to Alaska. I could use a little help to do further experimentation.

I  constructed a long forge to heat the steel pipes. I made a four-foot-long tapered steel form to bend the pipes and also bought 3/8-inch and 1-inch schedule 80 steel pipes to make the spirals. The design is complicated to build --almost god-like. It would have to have tie rods to hold it together and be dynamically balanced between live centers on my lathe. Thoth or Hermes may have invented the original design because he is often pictured with a similar thing in his hand. The flowing mercury creates a time bubble around the craft making it rather dangerous for living things near by. That is why it has to be shielded.

It is powered by a direct current electric motor mounted on the bottom. 112 pounds of lift with 100 HP gives you 5+ tons of lift. If it is over unity then the electric motor could be used to slow it down and generate electricity. The rotating part is mounted in a steel ball on gimbals so it can be turned about 19 degrees in every direction to direct the trust to steer the thing. The new light weight DC motors made in China for aircraft would be ideal for this application.

    

Electric car conversions--why not an aircraft?

This is the future!
I am seeking sponsors to build a two-place electric plane. The technology is there. Its only a matter of picking and choosing the right components. Since I started researching this project I have accumulated more data than I can put on this blog.

I want to build an experimental electric aircraft and will need additional funding or grants to cover the cost. Anyone interested should contact me hankkroll@gmail.com  The technology exists right now. Once I get it flying I will put a video on you tube to advertise your products and my company, New Wave Technology to do additional aircraft and car conversions. 
We have a non-profit 501-C-3 corporation WORKFORCE TRAINING SCHOOL that can accept TAX DEDUCTIBLE donations.

Engineering students at Ohio State University built a batter powered car that attained the record speed of 307 miles per hour on Utah's Bonneville Salt flats. The technology is there. Its only a matter of picking and choosing the right components.

I recently discovered Yuneec International power systems, a Chinese based company. They are furnishing the motor, controller and battery packages for the Sonex and other light aircraft. Their permanent magnet motors look great and they have four complet packages ranging from 13 to 81 HP.

Check out: www.buckeyebullet.com
There is a good write-up in the February 2013 Scientific American about this project.
 

Sikorsky has a full sized battery powered helicopter prototype on you tube. Check it out! It uses a US Hybrid electric motor and two Lithium battery packs weighing 700 pounds each. Not to practical at the present time. The battery technology is on the verge of making electric flying machines a reality. 

There are hundreds of electric car conversions on the road. Read  
Electrical Engineer: www.JohnSavesEnergy.com articles to learn more about electric car conversions.

Arguments for Electric Cars:

• Worst case, pollution is shifted from the tailpipe to the smokestack where emissions can be more strictly monitored and controlled.
• Worst case, pollution is far away from populated areas. Pollution happens at night when the cars are charging and most people are inside and not breathing outside air.
• As the electric grid becomes cleaner so do all the cars. This is an amazing quality. In Utah, 50% of all air pollution comes from automobiles. Imagine being able to reduce the emissions of hundreds of thousands of cars just by improving the point source where energy is generated? Air quality would improve overnight.
• Electric cars don’t need to warm up before driving somewhere.
• With electric cars, there is no risk of carbon monoxide poisoning.
• Electric motors don't care if it's summer, winter, sea level or high altitude. Unlike gasoline which must be adjusted according to the seasons and the local city's altitude, electricity could care less if it is used on the bottom of the ocean or a mountain on the moon.
• Pollution from an EV during rush-hour is non-existent. Unlike an ICE, EVs consume virtually no energy when sitting idle at a traffic light.
• Maintenance of an EV is almost non-existent. Water batteries every couple of months (lead acid only), add washer fluid and check your tire pressure. I do have to caution that you may have to get some dental work done because you will smile a lot more.
• EV’s with regenerative brakes have virtually no brake wear/tear. EV’s are super quiet and noise pollution is much lower with EVs.
• When working on an EV, you don’t become a greasy mess like in an ICE. No oil leaks, no mess.
• EV’s are super fun to drive. There is no comparison. Once you go EV, you never go back.
• The average commute is less than 20-miles, well within the range of electric cars.
• It takes 6 - 7.5 kWh of electricity to refine 1 gallon of gasoline. That's the same amount of energy a Nissan Leaf EV takes to drive 20 miles. If we stopped refining gasoline and all drove electric cars instead, our nation would still use the same amount of electricity as before only without needing any oil and gas. 

The battery packs that I think will work each weigh 135 pounds for a total weight of 270 pounds. The 160 AH at 78 volts batteries can sustain a maximum discharge of 60 amps and 40 amps continuous. Both battery packs hooked together can deliver a maximum of 120 amps for one minute delivering 80 HP.  I believe the plane will fly strait and level on 30 HP. Within seven years I predict battery power will more than double. Now is the time to get in on this!

Since there will be no engine, gasoline or fuel tanks to worry about the battery packs, electric motor and controller will weigh slightly more than the battery pack and the electric motor. When sitting at the airport solar cells could be used to charge the batteries.

I recently sold my J-3 Cub so I have some money to put into the project. It has to fly at least two hours carrying two people. The Challenger II kit aircraft empty weight is 350 pounds and cost about $20,000.00. Two Lithium ion battery packs with a controller cost about $20,000.00.  

I have been researching the new lithium ion batteries and electric car conversions for some time. There is a tremendous amount .of information on the web right now regarding electric car conversions.

PERFORMANCE:
	CHALLENGER I	CHALLENGER II	CHALLENGER I SPL	CHALLENGER II SPL.
VNE	100 MPH	100 MPH	120 MPH	120 MPH
TOP LEVEL SPEED	63 TO 90 MPH	75 TO 90 MPH	95 TO 105 MPH	100 MPH
CRUISE SPEED	55 TO 75 MPH	65 TO 70 MPH	75 TO 90 MPH	85 MPH
STALL SPEED	25 MPH	22 MPH SOLO 30 MPH DUAL	28 MPH	32 MPH SOLO 37 MPH DUAL
CLIMB RATE	700 TO 1200 FPM	1200 FPM SOLO 700 FPM DUAL	1000 TO 1400 FPM	1200 FPM SOLO 700 FPM DUAL
TAKE OFF ROLL	100 TO 200 FT	100 FT. SOLO 200 FT. DUAL	100 TO 150 FT	125 FT. SOLO 250 FT. DUAL
GLIDE RATIO	10 TO 1	11 TO 1 SOLO 9 TO 1 DUAL	9 TO 1	10 TO 1 SOLO 8 TO 1 DUAL
SERVICE CEILING	12,500 TO 14,500 FEET	14,000 FT. SOLO 12,500 FT. DUAL	14,000 FEET	14,000 FT. SOLO 12,500 FT. DUAL
FUEL USED CRUSE	1.5 TO 2.2 GPH	2.3 TO 4 GPH	2.3 TO 3 GPH	3.5 GPH

The Challenger II kit cost

The following e-mail illustrates the difficulties of communicating design specifications to someone who has never flown a plane.

D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204
315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX

www.ddmotorsystems.com

From: hankkroll@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM

To: sales@ddmotorsystems.com

Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request

Referal Page: EV_Page
Company Information

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Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO

Address:	513 Peninsula Avenue
	Kenai , AK , 99611

Phone:9072831456 Fax:
Email:hankkroll@gmail.com

Vehicle Information

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Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 75 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 100 MPH

Controller Type: Undecided

Motor Requirements

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H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.

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A propellar hub will be fixed on the motor where a three-blade ground adjustable carbon fiber prop is mounted. The Challenger is a pusher configuration so there is no danger of the hub coming off. As I said before we need 50 hp for takeoff and about 30 hp for level flight. Your smaller motor is what I need the price. Just give me a price.

One option is two Lithium Ion 110/ah/48 volt battery packs each weighing 135 pounds put out a maximum 30 amps each. Both will be used for takeoff for a total of 60 amps for one minute (96 volts with bot battery packs) a continuous output of 20 amps each (total 40 amps with both). I don't know if it will fly on 20 amps.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:01 AM, D&D Motors Systems - Sales <sales@ddmotorsystems.com> wrote:

Greetings Henry,

We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.

Thanks,
Mike Dieroff

D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204
315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX

www.ddmotorsystems.com

From: hankkroll@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM

To: sales@ddmotorsystems.com

Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request

Referal Page: EV_Page
Company Information

---

Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO

Address:	513 Peninsula Avenue
	Kenai , AK , 99611

Phone:9072831456 Fax:
Email:hankkroll@gmail.com

Vehicle Information

---

Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided

Motor Requirements

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H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
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We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?

Mike

From: Henry Kroll

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:43 PM

To: D&D Motors Systems - Sales

Subject: Re: Drive Motor Quote Request

A propellar hub will be fixed on the motor where a three-blade ground adjustable carbon fiber prop is mounted. The Challenger is a pusher configuration so there is no danger of the hub coming off. As I said before we need 50 hp for takeoff and about 30 hp for level flight. Your smaller motor is what I need the price. Just give me a price.

One option is two Lithium Ion 110/ah/48 volt battery packs each weighing 135 pounds put out a maximum 30 amps each. Both will be used for takeoff for a total of 60 amps for one minute (96 volts with bot battery packs) a continuous output of 20 amps each (total 40 amps with both). I don't know if it will fly on 20 amps.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:01 AM, D&D Motors Systems - Sales <sales@ddmotorsystems.com> wrote:

Greetings Henry,

We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.

Thanks,
Mike Dieroff

 
D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204
315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX

www.ddmotorsystems.com

From: hankkroll@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM

To: sales@ddmotorsystems.com

Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request

Referal Page: EV_Page
Company Information

---

Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO

Address:	513 Peninsula Avenue
	Kenai , AK , 99611

Phone: 9072831456 Fax:
Email: hankkroll@gmail.com

Vehicle Information

---

Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided

Motor Requirements

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H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
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I will adapt the keyed shaft to the prop hub. I have a metal lathe. Just send me a price for the 50 or 70 hp motor at 140 volts and the controller.

I can buy the blank prop hubs from any number of aircraft suppliers. I will bor it out myself so its not a problem. The keyed shaft would be best with a bolt tapped into the end. Being that the Challenger aircraft is a pusher configuration the prop will not come off.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM, D&D Motors Systems - Sales <sales@ddmotorsystems.com> wrote:

We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?)

Mike

From: Henry Kroll

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:43 PM

To: D&D Motors Systems - Sales

Subject: Re: Drive Motor Quote Request

A propellar hub will be fixed on the motor where a three-blade ground adjustable carbon fiber prop is mounted. The Challenger is a pusher configuration so there is no danger of the hub coming off. As I said before we need 50 hp for takeoff and about 30 hp for level flight. Your smaller motor is what I need the price. Just give me a price.

One option is two Lithium Ion 110/ah/48 volt battery packs each weighing 135 pounds put out a maximum 30 amps each. Both will be used for takeoff for a total of 60 amps for one minute (96 volts with bot battery packs) a continuous output of 20 amps each (total 40 amps with both). I don't know if it will fly on 20 amps.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:01 AM, D&D Motors Systems - Sales <sales@ddmotorsystems.com> wrote:

Greetings Henry,

We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.

Thanks,
Mike Dieroff

D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204
315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX

www.ddmotorsystems.com

From: hankkroll@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM

To: sales@ddmotorsystems.com

Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request

Referal Page: EV_Page
Company Information

---

Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO

Address:	513 Peninsula Avenue
	Kenai , AK , 99611

Phone: 9072831456 Fax:
Email: hankkroll@gmail.com

Vehicle Information

---

Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided

Motor Requirements

---

H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
Name of Picture File:

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This would be a fun project pointing the way for future technology development.